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Daneel Trevize
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:21:00 -
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Funkert wrote:what the hell was wrong with the old system, when holding ctrl locked it?
that made sense. you only hold ctrl if you're gonna lock something and thats the only time you need the overview to stop moving. Clearly you've never gone to right-click to broadcast and had a different element slip under your click, screwing the whole fleet up. Not everyone is locking the target they're trying to select.
That said, the freeze-on-mouseover is flawed with high priority new entries appearing typically far from previous ones.
Posting this suggestion here too:
Can we please have an option to have the overview populated from the bottom up. This is different to just changing your sort order, as it means you can resize the overview down and the entries will be anchored down with it, rather than simply growing space and forcing you to move up to the top of the screen for the higest priorty entries per sort order (typically distance), or to a dynamic, shifting absolute screen position for reversed sort, assuming your overview has sufficient space to fit them.
ATM reversed sort and having the rest of your useful UI at the bottom (default cap+modules, cargo, many people's selected item window and locked targets) means the only reason to head up to the top half of the screen is for the overview, and with reversed sort and enough entries your target entry might also need you to first scroll the bar too. All because there's no option to simply populate from the bottom up as opposed to top down.
Why have repositionable Selected window and locked targets icons without this key option? |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:32:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:EDIT - to the guy above me, clearly you have never assigned a shortcut button or used the default (x) to broadcast target and is still using the right click menu for some reason. I'd need to find/set shortcuts for Broadcast Align To and Warp to, I'm not often broadcasting targets to be locked atm. Also right-clicking to then fleet-warp. Hard to mess up the options when there's text descriptions being clicked, and do/did X and other fleet shortcuts also freeze the overview? |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:59:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Daneel Trevize wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:EDIT - to the guy above me, clearly you have never assigned a shortcut button or used the default (x) to broadcast target and is still using the right click menu for some reason. I'd need to find/set shortcuts for Broadcast Align To and Warp to, I'm not often broadcasting targets to be locked atm. Also right-clicking to then fleet-warp. Hard to mess up the options when there's text descriptions being clicked, and do/did X and other fleet shortcuts also freeze the overview? Fleet warp from right click in space - no problem Beacons. I'm not going use my mouse to swirl my camera around to track down the bracket to right-click it to fleet-warp when there's things on my overview to be locking up & volleyed with my limited 5 locks during a contest. I need the overview to hold still while I'm going to fleet-align/warp to a beacon but also for it to update sanely with rat spawns/new things on grid/when I want it to.
Having at least the option to have only Ctrl/some dedicated shortcut freeze the overview sorting is required, this mouse-over helps for picking out beacons/gates but fails for promptly swapping back to sorting rats together unless I move my mouse away from the overview only to move it back asap to lock more things.
The downside to the old Ctrl='freeze but also targetting' behaviour is the game's contantly telling me I can't target the beacons/gates I'm clicking with a frozen overview, and then that stops my modules from being ready to cycle on the next locked target. Bad UI -> missed chances to get the only volley in before a rat's dead -> lost contests -> no isk. |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.17 16:00:00 -
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FWIW:
http://client.eveonline.com/patches/optional/?from=341054&to=342273
Quote:Crucible 1.2 Client Update #2
Released February 17, 2012
This update addresses issues introduced with Crucible 1.2
User Interface
The ellipses in the overview have been sent to the naughty-stair to think about what they've done
Hover-based overview sort locking will unlock when the mouse is not in the client window regardless of where it was before it left
Corporation bulletins will once again give each other enough space to be seen properly
The minimum width of overview columns has been restored to 24 pixels
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